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Four Takeaways from HousingWire: The Gathering 2024

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May 14, 2024
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Mike Waterston

HousingWire hosted its biggest annual event, The Gathering, last week in Scottsdale, Arizona, and the timing couldn’t have been better. From the recent NAR settlement to what the Fed will do with rates, the event was a perfect opportunity for top executives and thought leaders from around the housing industry to discuss the topics and trends steering the real estate and mortgage sectors through the coming months.

Total Expert Chief Lending Officer Dan Catinella was on site all week and heard some interesting perspectives from several big names across the industry. Here are his four most important takeaways from the event:

Takeaway #1: Rates aren’t dropping—but plenty of opportunity remains

HousingWire’s Logan Mohtashami and Altos Research’s Mike Simonsen examined key housing data trends in one of my favorite sessions. Mohtashami explained why the Fed will likely not cut rates until we see the labor market weaken further, meaning we’re firmly on the “higher for longer” path on the interest rate front.  

But Simonsen pointed out a silver lining: Inventory data shows rising rates typically increase inventory levels. However, he also stated that home prices are likely to remain stable, giving homebuyers little relief from the combo of high rates and high prices.

So, what should lenders do? Across other sessions, there was a large focus on how to identify and seize all the purchase opportunities available. Moreover, lenders need to prepare for the next wave of refinances. Simonsen noted that the longer rates stay higher, the more future refinance opportunities (or inevitabilities) will be created.

Dan’s take: Engage borrowers now—not when rates drop

Lenders can’t wait until rates finally drop to engage borrowers about refi opportunities. To keep competitors from stealing your refis—and leaving you with both long-term revenue losses and potentially massive immediate early payoff (EPO) penalties—you need to start talking to your borrowers now. Help them understand how to navigate a falling-rate environment (it’s coming…eventually)—like how to figure out when to pull the trigger on refinancing. This is the kind of genuinely useful engagement that consumers want. And, building trust and loyalty today will make your borrowers more likely to resist the flood of low-rate competitor offers.

Takeaway #2: The NAR settlement will shake things up

After a month of headlines and heated discussions about the National Association of Realtors’ settlement, NAR President Kevin Sears took the stage to talk through his view on how the settlement will impact his organization and the broader housing industry. Sears was also clear in his disappointment about how the national media has portrayed the real estate community in the coverage of the settlement.  

In many other sessions at The Gathering, speakers discussed strategies for both realtors and lenders to get ahead of the key impacts of the NAR settlement. Chiefly, all parties need to work together to make sure that consumers can still protect their interests as empowered and informed homebuyers. That starts with education to ensure that all homebuyers—but especially first-time and less-experienced homebuyers—understand the value and benefits of having buyer representation to support the American dream of homeownership.

Dan’s take: Loan officers must become more central to homebuyer education

The changes brought about by the NAR settlement validate what I’ve been preaching for years: Loan officers (LOs) need to position themselves as the starting point of the homebuying journey. The settlement will shake up referral pipelines, so LOs will need to double down on finding new buyers. But they also have a huge opportunity to foster deeper relationships by being that trusted partner who guides homebuyers through the process. That’s not to say LOs are replacing the role played by the buyer’s agent. Rather, LOs can help borrowers understand why they should work with a buyer’s agent, how to choose an agent, how to understand the new landscape of agent fees, etc.

Takeaway #3: Everyone is investing in analytics & AI

AI is the deafening buzz in every industry right now—and housing is no different. Both Rocket Mortgage CEO Varun Krishna and Lower.com CEO Dan Snyder talked about how their companies are using the technology to get new value from data and uncover new intelligence. More specifically, they both discussed how they’re focusing AI investments on understanding their consumers at an extremely deep level so they can ultimately engage at a hyper-personalized level to serve them at every financial milestone.

Much of the discussion I heard from executives aligned with these sentiments. Everyone wants to be the first to the consumer, and they recognize that using data and intelligence is the way to get there. The great thing is this is no longer theoretical: Mortgage lenders that have invested in data and intelligence tools have proven to increase conversions and retention rates. That trend will continue to widen as this technology continues to evolve.

Dan’s take: Intelligence isn’t about knowing more—it’s about knowing what matters

One reason the promise of Big Data never materialized for so many organizations is that they just ended up bombarded by more and more noise but couldn’t find the signal. Analytics and AI are supposed to solve that signal problem. But plenty of companies are still falling into the “more is more” thinking. The point isn’t just to know more about your customers; it’s to know how to act on that information—to know the things that actually matter and deliver more personalized experiences, more relevant offers, more useful education, and deeper relationships. To bring that to life, at some point, knowing more about consumers’ personal habits and interests becomes less and less valuable. But seeing the signal that they’re approaching a life milestone like a wedding, starting a family, or starting a new career gives you powerful insights to make more personal connections.

Takeaway #4: Vendor partnerships are critical

One recurring theme of The Gathering 2024 was that the most successful lenders aren’t innovating in a silo. They’re leaning on their vendor partners to spark innovation and accelerate growth.  

It felt great to see Total Expert highlighted as one of these trusted partners. Managing Director of NFM Lending Greg Sher discussed why his organization chose to implement Total Expert as their CRM and customer engagement platform. But beyond the Total Expert platform, Greg talked about how having vendors that actively take on a partnership role is critical to the overall success of an IMB. Greg called out the importance of having trust not just in the technology but also in the people—why belief in the leadership and people within your vendor’s organization helps build collective momentum on moving you both in the right direction, continue to innovate, and grow at enterprise scale.

Dan’s take: We’re building out our own partner network to add more customer value

With rates and home prices staying high, the housing market is looking at a bumpy ride for a while longer. But lenders shouldn’t be trying to tackle those challenges on their own. The Gathering showed just how many impactful technologies are out there that can quickly and sizably help lenders with their biggest goals and pain points. You should be looking for smart ways to leverage technology to flip challenges into competitive advantages.

That’s why Total Expert is expanding our own partnerships. We recognize that one of the best ways the Total Expert platform delivers value to our customers is by seamlessly integrating with the other tools and systems they rely on every day. So, we’re continuously adding more partnerships and integrations to make the Total Expert ecosystem more valuable to our customers.

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But here’s the thing: we’re at a turning point. What got us here, the strategies that helped us retain and grow in the past, are no longer good enough. You might say it is necessary, but not sufficient, and the cost of waiting is higher than the cost of change. The forces reshaping our industry aren’t on the horizon; they’re sitting at the table. AI technologies, increasingly complex compliance, mergers and acquisitions, shifting consumer demands. It’s not a question of whether we’ll adapt, it’s whether we’re adapting fast enough.  

That’s why, at Accelerate, Joe and I introduced the concept of the “new necessary” as part of our Aim Higher conference theme. Staying relevant (and competitive) requires more than awareness, automation, or clever content. It requires deep, enterprise-ready context that powers systems of intelligence and action. Systems where originators and AI work together in sync—always on, highly consistent, endlessly scalable. Your feedback, and the results we’ve seen so far, tell me we’re on the right track. And. Have a lot to do!

Throughout the conference, I spoke about four pillars of focus: Strengthening the Foundation, Customer IQ, Lead Management, and AI. Here’s a quick tour.

Strengthening the Foundation

This year, we doubled down on the foundation of Total Expert: improving core capabilities, enhancing performance, expanding our ecosystem, evolving user experience. At Accelerate, we demonstrated real progress: faster email delivery, more tools to utilize SMS, automated marketing packages, Sales Manager Dashboards, and new integrations. That’s great progress. More is necessary. We are on it!    

Customer IQ

Agentic AI enables business value when it’s fueled by rich, accurate, and timely context.  The insights and enrichment from Customer Intelligence is necessary and drives great business outcomes. However, more is needed to take full advantage of what’s possible with AI Agents acting as high-performing members of your team rather than wasting time and money on bland generic agents operating with limited context.

That’s why we announced Customer IQ. We are deepening our commitment to dramatically increase context across four dimensions; enrichment and insights, consent, contact/customer information, and relationship history.  As an early example, in December we’ll be releasing new capabilities to enable the collection and aggregation of consent from multiple systems directly into Total Expert. That means our AI Sales Assistant can instantly understand consent and act on it- accurately and efficiently. More context expansions are already queued up for 2026.

Lead Management: Reimagined

We’re launching the first release of our revamped Lead Management in February. This isn’t just a tune-up; it’s a rebuild. From lead ingestion and routing policies to loan officer workflows, admin tools, journey orchestration, and analytics—this release sets the stage for what’s coming next. And it’s just the beginning. Stay tuned for more updates soon.

Agentic AI and AI Services

At Accelerate, we showcased real results from the AI Sales Assistant. Four use cases are live today, and we’re handling millions of calls each month. This volume has accelerated performance most importantly, customer results. With the right combination of context, industry expertise, and integrations into business processes, we’ve unlocked a recipe for success. We’re continuing to expand on this, with exciting new use cases on the horizon.

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This is the new necessary.  

I’m incredibly fired up about our vision, our momentum, our roadmap, and the amazing work we get to do alongside our clients, partners, and teammates. At the end of the day, it’s not about the technology. It’s about the business value it enables. The customers who are leaning into what we’re building are becoming more competitive. Those that aren’t risk falling behind.

I hope that Accelerate, this post, and our community give you the inspiration and insights you need to chart your next steps toward the new necessary—the why, the how, and the when.  

Thank you, as always, for your feedback, your drive, and your partnership. Let’s keep moving toward the perfect customer journey!

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Forming authentic relationships has always been the competitive edge for smaller lenders. And as the FinServ world has become more tech-driven and digital-first, credit unions and community banks have only leaned further into this powerful differentiator. But we’re seeing an interesting trend among some of the most successful small- to mid-market lenders: They’re recognizing that tech-enabled engagement is no longer mutually exclusive to genuine human connections. They’ve created powerful data-driven strategies that make it easier for them to build good, old-fashioned personal relationships.

These forward-thinking lenders are realizing that their smaller size is actually an advantage in implementing “big data” tools and strategies. We’re seeing credit unions and community banks deploy Total Expert Customer Intelligence in a matter of weeks and start realizing value in as little as 90 days, building a loyalty- and revenue-generating engine that fuels itself.

But how are they doing it in a financial landscape where consumers have more choices and competitors aren’t just in the building across the street?

Even close borrower relationships are growing more complex

Small- to mid-market lenders have been historically hesitant to embrace tech-powered, data-driven strategies because there was a concern that it would dehumanize their connections with borrowers. Which is understandable as community banks and credit unions have built their brands and their reputations on their ability to forge honest, transparent relationships—getting to know their customers and members in ways bigger lenders could only dream of.

But even those 1:1 borrower connections are now digital-first, multi-channel relationships. Those increasingly complex relationships involve exponentially more data, information, preferences, and intent signals. A common concern we hear among smaller lenders runs along the lines of, “We don’t have enough data for a ‘Big Data’ strategy.” But the truth is that even the smallest credit unions and community banks are swimming (and sometimes drowning) in a pool of tremendously valuable data.

Borrowers expect to feel “known” across every channel; they want the same feeling of 1:1 personalization at every touchpoint. And it’s becoming a genuine challenge for smaller lenders to juggle all the information and orchestrate these hyper-personalized omnichannel experiences.

Using Customer Intelligence + marketing automation to enhance personal borrower relationships

More and more credit unions and community banks are turning to data-driven, tech-enabled strategies to complement—not replace—their personal relationships with borrowers. We’ve seen smaller lenders have tremendous success with Customer Intelligence and our dynamic, automated Journeys because they:

  • Surface intent signals in real time: Customer Intelligence surfaces critical intent signals as they happen, giving LOs the superpower of knowing what borrowers and homeowners need when they need it.
  • Highlight life events as critical engagement opportunities: Customer Intelligence helps smaller lenders go beyond traditional intent signals, recognizing key life events or milestones (graduating, getting married, starting a family, changing careers, retiring, etc.) that signal shifting financial goals and new borrowing needs. This gives your LOs natural opportunities to reach out with helpful, personalized guidance.
  • Enable personalized outreach at scale and speed: Credit unions and community banks are using Total Expert Journeys and other automation capabilities to help their LOs stay on top of all of these valuable Customer Intelligence signals. Built-in triggers and automated Journeys enable LOs to magically engage at just the right time—across their full roster of customers and prospects.

Smaller lenders are leveraging Total Expert’s digital toolset to help them show up for borrowers when it matters most—across every and all channels—to give them the feeling they want most: a trusted financial advisor who understands their financial needs and goals, providing proactive support and guidance to help deliver the best possible outcome.

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Another major misconception among credit unions and community banks is that they don’t have the resources to manage this kind of automated, Customer Intelligence-powered strategy.  

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The smaller size of most credit unions and community banks works to their advantage here. We consistently see these customers go live and start seeing measurable value with Customer Intelligence in as little as eight weeks because they’re able to implement, build, test, and launch faster than larger lenders that have more layers of reviews and approvals.

Smaller lenders driving big value: Customer Intelligence case studies

Dart Bank

  • Customer Intelligence in action: Dart Bank uses Customer Intelligence to surface life events and intent signals in real time, enabling LOs to engage members with proactive, personalized support across channels.
  • Driving measurable value: In just six months, Dart Bank drove an additional $48 million in funded loans—all by connecting with borrowers at the right moments of opportunity.

Tucson Federal Credit Union (TFCU)

  • Customer Intelligence in action: TFCU adopted Total Expert Journeys + Customer Intelligence to automate workflows, unify member data, and personalize communications; reducing manual work (e.g., uploading data daily) and streamlining email campaigns.
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Family Savings Credit Union

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Horicon Bank

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Tech- and data-driven strategies have proven over and over that they have the ability to help deepen personal relationships for smaller credit unions and community banks. Our customers are proving that size doesn’t have to be a barrier. It can be an advantage that allows organizations to move quickly, leverage powerful tools like Customer Intelligence, and deliver authentic, personalized experiences at scale.

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