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How Conversational AI Is Transforming CX & Lead Capture in Financial Services

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May 30, 2024
By
Mike Waterston

Meeting consumers where they are is becoming more critical, as is being ready to provide personalized, responsive service at the moments that matter. But one big challenge is that a human isn’t always available when a consumer reaches out to a financial services organization.  

Consumers often manage their financial needs in the evenings after they’re done with their own work. For example, roughly 50% of mortgage leads come in outside operating hours. The other issue is unpredictable volume: staff might be busy helping other customers and unable to take a new inquiry.  

But consumers often aren’t willing to wait. They judge the lack of prompt response as poor service and take their business elsewhere. Or, just as likely, they’re shopping around—and will go with the first business to respond to their needs.

This is where conversational AI tools have transformed the CX world. Forrester says 7 in 10 companies have invested in offering an AI chatbot—up from just 15% in 2018. Yet there’s a disconnect in terms of what consumers want from conversational AI—and what many of these AI tools actually deliver: Research shows consumers increasingly prefer AI chatbots to other digital channels of communication. However, half of consumers say their conversational AI experiences end in frustration.

Verse, a Total Expert Marketplace partner, is one innovative tech vendor pushing conversational AI ahead of consumer expectations. How? By bringing in the critical element of human expertise to complement the incredible capabilities of state-of-the-art AI. We sat down with Damien Swendsen, SVP of Revenue at Verse, to talk about how financial services organizations should be thinking about how conversational AI can directly solve some of their biggest pain points and drive measurable outcomes that align with some of their biggest strategic objectives.

When it comes to engaging and nurturing leads, what key challenges does Verse’s conversational AI solution solve?  

We believe that Verse represents the future of engaging and nurturing leads. It solves challenges with staffing, budget, and time—three big ones, I would say, for any company. Our platform solves for human time as well as human error with immediate lead response—at any time—plus, automated lead follow-up. So, your leads don’t have to wait for a response, no matter the time of day—and no lead is ever left behind. While a salesperson might give up after one or two calls, our AI nurtures leads for up to six months.

Verse ensures salespeople aren’t wasting their time. Our platform does the work that salespeople don’t want to do—engaging every lead, following up, and qualifying those leads. We hand your salespeople warm leads that want to talk.

This is important stuff. According to a lead response management study, data shows that leads are 21x more likely to convert if they are contacted within five minutes of filling out a form. Even after just an hour, the likelihood of successfully contacting a lead drops by 10x. People just aren’t willing to wait: We also know that 50% of leads will choose the organization that contacts them first. So, Verse enables companies not only to save time and money but win more deals and generate more revenue.

We also continue to nurture leads that aren’t ready to buy. Studies also show that nurtured leads make purchases 47% larger than non-nurtured leads.

Do any specific shifts in the market create new challenges for conversational AI?  

We all know about the regulations around calling or spamming people and how there are laws to curtail those practices. Now, we’re seeing both the government and private companies like Google and Yahoo increase communication regulations.  

In February, they started enforcing new rules around emailing customers who use their email accounts. Thresholds of 0.3% for spam rates, authentication barriers, and easy opt-outs are forcing senders to be more diligent around their communication, and those same companies are now looking for other compliant ways to engage with their prospects and customers. Many are looking to the most effective form of communication today—texting—as a possible solution.

Verse provides a solution that capitalizes on the power of texting and solves the compliance problem. Our expert team handles compliance for our customers, allowing them to communicate with customers according to their preferences without worry.

Why are Total Expert and Verse partnering?  

First, we wanted to partner with an industry leader who knows and understands the nuances and intricacies of our customers’ challenges. It’s hard to find a partner who simply “gets it” from the start.

Our solutions are so perfectly complementary. The Total Expert platform helps companies manage customer engagement holistically, and the Verse solution brings together a whole new way of engagement, which is a turnkey, AI + human texting solution. Integrating Verse into the Total Expert platform will carry engagement even further than we could separately.

What differentiates the Verse solution from others in the market? Where do the do-it-yourself SMS setups fall short? What are the implications for the organization?  

One of Verse’s biggest differentiators is the compliance suite. Texting is the number one channel for customer communication, preferred by 90% of customers. But businesses don’t do it. Why? Because of compliance. It’s too complicated to solve for yourself.

The stakes are high: non-compliance can lead to lawsuits in the tens of millions of dollars, not to mention the trust lost with customers.

Verse puts our expert compliance team on your side. We ensure and enable compliance for all of our customers, conducting manual reviews and audits, setting up your A2P registration, obtaining your Trust Score from TCR, and ensuring you have caller ID so your calls never show up as spam.  

In addition, we monitor your deliverability and opt-out rates. Many companies struggle to see their deliverability rates, but we can, and we’ll let you know. Our end goal is to enable customer success, so we guide our customers—not just on how to be compliant but also on how to be effective.

How does the Verse integration solve for common gaps seen with other solutions like DIY setups?

The Verse platform is a fully managed solution. We handle the integration for you. That’s very different than most other solutions, which may not be fully managed and can take months upon months to integrate properly. Our team ensures that integration is easy, quick, and compliant.  

Again, compliance is very risky to tackle yourself with a DIY setup. I’ll tell you right now: There are more bases to cover with compliance than you think. With Verse, compliance is built in and monitored by experts.

Lastly, we integrate with Total Expert, so you can see Verse’s full reporting and real-time analytics right from your CRM.

What success stories can you share around ROI—and how Verse helps with risk mitigation and operational inefficiencies?  

The average Verse customer sees a 16x ROI. As for a recent customer story, we helped Acra Lending boost their response rates by 133% with 24/7 lead coverage and instant text engagement.

One of the main operational inefficiencies that our platform combats is saving time for salespeople. Human capital is a valuable resource, but sales teams often spend too much time chasing unqualified leads. Verse solves that problem by qualifying leads for sales. Plus, we take action quickly. When there aren’t enough salespeople to contact leads quickly, our AI is there to respond immediately. This has limitless potential for ROI.

Verse’s compliance suite is a game-changer in terms of risk mitigation. Companies that don’t know what they’re doing with compliance are risking millions of dollars and consumer trust. Those are risks you don’t want to take.

How do I learn more about Verse and their partnership with Total Expert?

You can learn more about the Verse integration here.

And you can explore the full range of best-in-class vendor partners in the Total Expert Marketplace.

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Meet the Partner: Birdeye

Birdeye is the #1 Agentic Marketing Platform for multi-location brands. Financial institutions use Birdeye to manage their online presence, collect and respond to customer reviews, monitor local listings, and turn customer feedback into actionable growth intelligence. Birdeye’s platform unifies the marketing stack to help lenders, banks, and credit unions build trust at scale—branch by branch, advisor by advisor—so every part of the organization is earning customer confidence before, during, and after the relationship begins.

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For most financial institutions, the customer relationship begins when someone fills out an application, walks into a branch, or picks up the phone. But that’s not when your customer’s journey begins.

Long before a borrower reaches out, they’ve already started forming an opinion about you, your competitors, realtors, and the mortgage industry in general. They’ve searched for lenders in their area, read reviews, seen the news, and talked to family, friends, and coworkers. They’ve probably even asked Claude or ChatGPT to compare rates from local banks and credit unions. They’ve scanned branch listings, looked at star ratings, and made a shortlist of their top choices. They’ve done a lot. And all without ever speaking to a single person on your team.

That’s the new front door for financial services. And for too many institutions, that front door is invisible, inconsistent, or completely closed. It’s a huge problem that Total Expert and Birdeye are working together to solve.

The shift happening right now in borrower discovery

Borrower behavior has changed in ways that most financial institutions haven’t fully caught up with yet. For a long time, reputations in financial services were built through branch relationships, local presence, referrals, and personal trust. Those things still matter but, today, trust is often built or lost before a borrower ever speaks to a loan officer, banker, or advisor.

A borrower may first meet your brand through a Google search, an online review, a branch listing, a social post, or an AI-generated answer. They may ask AI platforms which lender is best for first-time homebuyers, which credit union has the best service, or which local bank is easiest to work with. In that moment, your reputation isn’t just what your brand says. It’s what the digital ecosystem can find, understand, and validate about you.

The data backs this up. Birdeye’s State of Online Reviews 2026 report found that review volume grew 30.7% year over year in 2025, with Google capturing nearly 80% of all reviews. Meanwhile, McKinsey describes AI-powered search as the “new front door to the internet,” with research showing that half of consumers already use AI-powered search and that AI search could influence $750 billion in revenue by 2028.

For financial institutions, this matters because trust is a product you can’t put a price on. People are making decisions about homes, savings, credit, and their financial future. If your branch information is inaccurate, your reviews are negative or outdated, or customer feedback goes unanswered; you may lose the borrower before the relationship even starts.

What Birdeye does and why it matters for financial institutions

Birdeye replaces fragmented point tools with one full-cycle platform. Instead of forcing small teams to manually update data, custom AI agents execute marketing playbooks autonomously across hundreds of locations. For financial institutions, it helps manage the full digital presence of every branch, advisor, and location—at scale.

In practical terms, that means:

  • Keeping branch and location data accurate and consistent across every major listing platform and search engine
  • Collecting customer feedback and reviews at key moments in the borrower journey
  • Monitoring and responding to reviews across Google and other platforms—quickly and at scale
  • Surfacing customer experience signals by branch, loan officer, product line, or market so teams can identify where trust is strong and where it’s breaking down
  • Building the content, consistency, and credibility signals that AI-driven answer engines use to recommend businesses to consumers

Birdeye’s State of AI Search 2026 report found that in an analysis of ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity, 80% of brands were cited at least once in AI-generated answers—but only 15% held the top citation position with their own owned domain. AI search rewards clarity, structure, and consistency. The financial institutions that win in AI-driven discovery will be the ones with the most trusted, complete, and credible local footprint.

That’s exactly what Birdeye is built to create.

How Total Expert and Birdeye work together

Most financial institutions don’t have a data problem. They have a connection problem.

Customer signals are everywhere: CRM records, reviews, surveys, branch interactions, loan officer conversations, and servicing feedback. The issue is that these signals often sit in separate systems. So, by the time a team sees the pattern, the moment to act has already passed.

Total Expert helps financial institutions manage customer engagement and relationship journeys. Birdeye helps them capture feedback, manage reputation, improve local visibility, and turn customer signals into action. Together, they connect the relationship layer with the reputation and experience layer—so the intelligence flows in both directions.

Here’s how the integration works in practice:

  • Lenders can request feedback from borrowers at important moments in the relationship journey—after an application, closing, branch visit, or servicing interaction
  • Survey responses and customer experience scores from Birdeye can flow back into Total Expert, giving relationship teams visibility into how borrowers are feeling inside the systems they already use every day
  • A positive review can strengthen local visibility and reinforce trust in that branch or advisor’s digital presence
  • A negative review or recurring complaint can trigger service recovery or escalation—before it becomes a bigger problem
  • Patterns in feedback data can become operational priorities, helping regional or branch leaders identify where the experience is breaking down and course-correct quickly

This is the shift financial institutions need to make: feedback shouldn’t sit in a dashboard. It should move into the daily workflow of the business.

From reactive to proactive: the future of experience-driven growth

The traditional model of reputation management was reactive. A customer leaves a review. Someone responds. A report gets created. Maybe a trend reaches leadership weeks later.

That model is too slow for how borrowers make decisions today.

PwC’s 2025 Customer Experience Survey found that 52% of consumers stopped using or buying from a brand after a bad product or service experience, and 29% stopped because of poor customer experience online or in person. Experience isn’t a soft metric. It directly affects loyalty and growth.

Together, Total Expert and Birdeye give financial institutions the tools to move earlier and act faster. AI can help teams listen at scale—bringing together signals from reviews, surveys, social channels, listings, and CRM systems. It can help teams act faster by identifying urgent issues, drafting responses, routing follow-ups, and giving branch and regional leaders clear next steps. And it can help leaders see what’s working: which branches are earning the strongest trust, which loan officers are creating the best borrower experience, and which themes are driving referrals and conversion.

This is where reputation management becomes something bigger: experience-driven growth.

Accessible through the Expert Partner Network

For Total Expert customers, accessing Birdeye is straightforward through the Expert Partner Network—the same ecosystem where lenders can access a range of integrated tools and services designed to support every stage of the borrower journey.

Instead of standing up a new workflow or managing a separate vendor relationship, Birdeye’s capabilities become part of how your team already operates. The feedback loop between Birdeye and Total Expert means your relationship data gets smarter over time, your team sees the signals they need in the right context, and your borrowers experience a more consistent, responsive institution at every touchpoint.

The lenders who win will earn trust before the first conversation

Winning in today’s market isn’t just about having the best rates or the most loan products. It’s about being the institution borrowers find, trust, and choose—often before they ever pick up the phone.

The financial institutions that get ahead will be the ones treating reputation as an operating signal rather than a marketing metric. They’ll use customer feedback as real-time intelligence. They’ll build the kind of consistent, trusted digital presence that earns borrowers in a world where AI is increasingly answering the question, “Who should I work with?”

That’s what Total Expert and Birdeye make possible—together.

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