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Redefining Mortgage Marketing with the Team at A Marketing Agency

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February 15, 2024
By
Mike Waterston

Mortgage marketing is an incredibly niche space and not the priority focus for most loan officers and loan officer assistants. Their focus is on engaging borrowers, deepening relationships, and closing loans. That doesn’t mean they don’t appreciate the value of consistent marketing and building brand awareness, it’s that they can only do so much while navigating the ever-changing trends and challenges in the market. For the past few years, rising interest rates have been the biggest hurdle. But with the Fed announcing three scheduled rate drops throughout 2024, marketing messages and strategies must shift completely. That’s a big undertaking even for marketing-savvy loan officers and larger teams to deal with.

One thing that never changes for loan officers and their teams is their ultimate goal: to generate new business and close loans. There’s no right or wrong way to reach that goal, but having an experienced team of marketers on your side can help you find the best path for your business.  

We sat down with our partners Pierson Hibbs and Liz Hall, co-founders of A Marketing Agency (“AMA”), to talk about both the evolving challenges and untapped opportunities loan officers are facing in today’s complex market.  

What are the key challenges you see loan officers facing in today’s market?

Right now, it’s finding new ways to grow their business while fighting off the still-high interest rates and preparing for the wave of new purchases and refis once rates come down. Additionally, many loan officers face a “barrier to entry” in marketing because they don’t have the time, energy, or understanding of which tactics will yield results. They’re experts in the mortgage and real estate world, so it’s up to us to help them market that expertise.

How do shifts in the market create new challenges in mortgage marketing?

With the market’s volatility over the last two years, it’s like trying to build a house while the ground is shifting beneath you. Building relationships with borrowers is already challenging enough with the amount of competition in the industry, but you also have variables outside your control (such as high interest rates) that make it difficult to generate momentum. As the market looks to shift again in 2024, loan officers will have to strike a balance between continuing their current conversations and marketing to a new batch of borrowers who have been waiting for interest rates to fall.  

What are the key tactics you see working to maximize efforts and avoid problems when expanding?

Delegation and deliberate movement are two of the most important ways to avoid growing pains when expanding. We all set lofty goals and try to accomplish more than we have the bandwidth to achieve on our own. Finding the right balance between what you can accomplish and when to bring in help is paramount to the success of any business. You don’t have to know how to do it all; you just have to know when to bring in the right people to help you accomplish your goals!

Taking the time to map out where you want to go, taking realistic steps to get there, and having a feasible timeline all work to ensure your efforts are deliberate. If you take a deliberate step in the right direction every day, you’ll be amazed by how much progress you’ll have made a year from now! 

What are clients looking for that AMA and Total Expert offer together?

Our clients seek cutting-edge mortgage marketing solutions that work for them while loan officers and loan officer assistants do what they do best. Total Expert provides an intelligent automation engine that’s purpose-built to help modern financial institutions increase ROI, drive new growth, and develop lifelong customer relationships. AMA’s mission is to help institutions maximize their use of Total Expert, working to ensure that they meet their ROI and drive more loans to their loan officers through Total Expert. Our goal is to ensure the complete utilization of Total Expert’s marketing capabilities by all end users.

What does an ideal client look like for AMA and Total Expert?

AMA’s ideal client would be an institution that has either already implemented Total Expert but needs a captain to steer the ship or is about to enter the implementation process with Total Expert.  

We’ve helped several clients increase engagement and conversions by maximizing how they’re using the Total Expert platform. But we can help clients realize those benefits from the very beginning by acting as their “experts in Total Expert” to guide them through integrating Total Expert into their existing tech stack. AMA is here to help with anything related to Total Expert on an application/best-practice basis! 

What differentiates AMA from other options in the market?

AMA aims to redefine mortgage marketing, delivering innovative and tailored solutions that empower corporate mortgage lenders to thrive in today’s competitive landscape. We specialize in crafting dynamic strategies and comprehensive services designed to elevate an institution’s brand, engage its audience, and drive unparalleled results. Our sole focus is supporting Total Expert customers. We don’t service any other customer engagement platforms because we believe Total Expert is the premier mortgage marketing solution. With roots in the mortgage industry, we don’t just know marketing; we understand what it takes to thrive as a loan officer. We’ve been marketing for loan officers for almost a decade and love this industry. Rather than turning to an FTE or another CRM Management Firm, we know Total Expert inside and out and are here to grow with you. AMA operates on a per-project basis, allowing us to accomplish far more per cost than a traditional admin. Everything we do has been meticulously crafted to fit seamlessly into an institution’s ecosystem. If you’re looking for third-party support relating to Total Expert, give us a call! 

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In this exclusive interview, Joe Welu, Founder & CEO of Total Expert, shares the company’s latest advances in AI. He focuses on lessons learned from their pilot program and explores how AI is delivering a measurable lift in operational efficiency and lead conversions across lending teams.

Beyond internal improvements, Joe reveals Total Experts’ focus on the borrower experience and how their technology is designed to supercharge loan officers, not replace them. Joe shares with Allison LaForgia his forward-looking perspective on the innovations expected in the near future that will continue to drive Total Expert’s leadership in mortgage technology.

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The pilot program, he said, was rooted in an iterative approach with tight feedback loops. “As we learn… it gives us information, and we make adjustments… A key thing we’ve learned with AI projects… get really super clear about what it is in the business that you are improving. Give them that target… so it’s not this ambiguous sort of black box.”

The results have been measurable: “We are seeing, in some cases, 10 to 20% better conversions,” Welu said. AI’s consistency is a major factor. “It always remembers to call people back… never calls in sick… works weekends… It allows you to take your great people and… have them doing the most highly productive work possible.”

Borrower experience is also improving. “One of the pleasant surprises… is the quality of the experience to the end consumer,” he said. Whether or not lenders disclose that a caller is AI, “the quality of the interaction is so high, they continue down the path.” The AI agent maintains “the right tone… the ability to match… the tempo of the conversation” while instantly tapping into contextual customer data.

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Best Practices for Executive Teams Deploying AI in Financial Services

The AI revolution feels like humanity just discovered fire—and everyone is racing to see what they can ignite.

That means a rush of AI pilots and proofs-of-concept across all industries, many of which launched without evaluating each use case against actual business value.

As I meet with CEOs and executive teams from leading mortgage lenders and financial institutions, the conversation has shifted from “What can AI do?” to “How do we deploy AI responsibly, at speed, and with measurable impact?”

The market leaders I work with are outpacing competitors by following a remarkably consistent playbook. They’re not just testing AI, they’re embedding it across their organizations with purpose, speed, and discipline.

Below, I’ve distilled the best practices I’ve observed from the institutions getting the most from AI today.

Anchor AI strategy to business outcomes

Tie every AI initiative to a clear business priority—whether it’s loan growth, customer retention, or operational efficiency.

Define KPIs, ROI targets, and adoption metrics before a project begins. No project should exist without a measurable path to value.

Start with high-impact, low-friction wins

Focus first on areas where a proof of concept or pilot is feasible within 30-60 days. Conversational and Voice AI solutions provide many options for pilot use cases. Other common use cases involve document classification, predictive churn modeling, or intelligent lead scoring. These early wins build momentum, prove ROI, and prepare teams for more complex deployments.

Invest in data quality and governance early

AI is only as good as the data feeding it.

Start by creating a single source of truth for customer and loan data. Then, anticipate obstacles to deploying AI with your data, such as consumer consent and preference management, and start addressing these things ASAP. Investing in tools like Customer Intelligence will help enrich your data and increase its value.  

Embed compliance and risk management from day one

Regulations such the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA), TCPA (Telephone Consumer Protection Act), and UDAP (Unfair, Deceptive, or Abusive Acts or Practices) will be a few key areas where regulators dig in and look for companies cutting corners.

Create a cross-functional AI task force

Bring together leaders from product, compliance, data science, operations, and customer experience. Avoid siloed pilots—alignment ensures every initiative supports the broader business strategy. Include change management expertise to drive adoption, not just deployment.

Prioritize customer experience and trust

Every organization has gaps in their customer journey and can benefit from leveraging AI to provide human-like touch points throughout the experience. Use AI to remove friction, improve transparency, and deliver personalization at scale. Keep humans informed about high-stakes decisions and be transparent with customers about how AI is used and how their data is protected.

Build for integration, not isolation

Select AI solutions that integrate seamlessly with your CRM, LOS, core banking systems, and data lakes. Use APIs and modular architectures to avoid “AI silos” that slow scale and ROI.

Focus on talent and change management

Embracing AI with a growth mindset should be table stakes. Incentivize adoption so teams see AI as an enabler—not a threat to their roles. Upskill executives and frontline teams in AI literacy. When needed, recruit or partner for deep ML and data science expertise.

Measure, monitor, and iterate

AI is not a one-and-done project—it’s a living product. Track performance, user adoption, and ROI continuously, and refine models quarterly to maintain accuracy and relevance.

Choose the right tech partners: favor vertical specialists

Partner with vendors who understand financial services—especially your unique customer journeys or workflows. Deep domain understanding on core systems, database schemas, compliance, and other nuances will be a key factor in the results you achieve.

Benefits of vertical-focused partners:

  • Deep understand of unique data sets and customer profiles
  • Faster implementation with industry-specific models
  • Built-in regulatory and risk controls
  • Product roadmaps aligned to lending and banking trends

Horizontal AI tools have their place, but without deep domain expertise, they often require heavy internal customization and a slower time to value.

The future is here

AI today is not the same as the project in 2018 that failed to deliver those operational efficiencies in the back office everyone was promised. Its potential to transform nearly every part of our businesses is becoming increasingly clear. Every day you delay, competitors are building up their capabilities and you will struggle to catch up. As one of my investors put it bluntly, “Every day you fail to execute a comprehensive AI strategy, the value of your business goes down.”  

To learn more about how Total Expert is working with our customers on high-impact AI initiatives, please reach out to our team.  

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