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Deposits: The Next Banking Refinance Boom

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August 12, 2022
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As depositors consider economic risks, and as significant Federal Reserve rate increases lure treasury managers to assess their returns, financial institutions must engage depositors with information and options, if they wish to fend off deposits pricing pressures that threaten profitability.

Current data indicates that financial institutions still hold high volumes of retail deposits at ultra-low interest rates, significant portions of which have months or even years to mature. For years, many conventional-thinking banking executives have felt burdened by excess deposits. The landscape, though, is shifting such that a single-minded focus on minimizing the cost of funds will produce sub-optimal financial results.

High-performing financial institutions, on the other hand, will create more significant profit through a combination of volume and spread. In fact, banks and credit unions can lock in as much as $2.25 million in riskless profits for every $50 million in deposits retained; and they can do it while serving customers well without price-matching competitors.

Either way, urgency soon will build for leaders to orchestrate aggressive deposit retention strategies as competition ramps up for depositors’ business. Early withdrawal penalties now are – almost universally – not enough to render refinancing unprofitable for deposit holders. Many bankers report that public fund treasurers are already running the numbers to close out old contracts, take their penalties, and reinvest at today’s higher interest rates. We can confidently predict that retail depositors will soon be open to such opportunities as well.

A new view, rethinking penalties

Even as simple as the math is, many institution leaders did not take the time to stress-test their portfolios for the consequences of refinancing CDs in a rising-rate environment. The costs could be significant. Just as fintechs took low mortgage rates as their entry into real estate lending, others that focus on banking now will use rising rates as their entry into consumer banking, and even into larger treasury relationships.

Leaders have an opportunity to look at deposits from the eyes of depositors and to redesign the experience so consumers can get more of what they want and add profit to the financial institution in the process.

Static penalties should be considered first. They produce little if any revenue and fail to provide an effective barrier against early withdrawal when coming out of a low-rate environment. For example, take a depositor who owns a certificate of deposits with a five-year term paying 0.8%. If, after 12 months, the interest rates available on a three-year U.S. Treasury are over 3%, they can gain from cashing in the original term deposit, paying the penalty, and reinvesting at the higher rate. The penalty is a nuisance that contributes to lost relationships more than it prevents deposit runoff.

Equipped with data on break points in the deposit portfolio where interest rate risk is not adequately protected by penalties, banking leaders can begin looking at deposit products from the other direction. Knowing what benefits their institution, they can define products that most benefit the depositor. Customers or members who would benefit from new deposit options then become candidates for a call from banking personnel, for a lead generation campaign, or for engagement through intelligent automation for depositors.

When others play on price

Remember pricing deposits in 2017-2019?  If leaders don’t want to participate in a deposit price war, then engaging depositors now with education and options is imperative. While others float toward price competition, strategic institutions will design and engage depositors in the most pertinent ways to their financial situation.

For example, depositors want to exit time deposits now because rates appear to offer opportunity. But, since no one knows what rates will do, that desired liquidity can have a retention effect. Just as uncertainty about rates affects the value of banking assets, future rate movement also affects the value of depositors’ assets: CDs and savings accounts. In times of rate uncertainty, liquidity has increased value to consumers who want CD yields, because they are also worried about locking a rate in.

But institutions can’t simultaneously provide liquidity and an attractive yield, right? Wrong!

We see institutions offer a hybrid deposit arrangement—a CD combined with a high-yield savings account—in situations where depositors request more value. They offer a high-yield savings account with a CD rate, but only when the depositor has committed to the financial institution with a term deposit. The depositor now has a sweeter deal than what term deposits offer on their own—access to a CD rate with the liquidity of a savings account.

Where before the institution was fighting to keep a CD, it might now gain the entire deposit relationship because it offered both rate risk management and yield. While not every depositor will qualify depending upon the size of the penalty and the amount of time to maturity, those who do are most likely to add deposits at a price properly fitted to the institution’s asset-liability strategy. In that case, the depositors get more than they asked for.

The first wave of banks that launched this approach during the last deposit refinance boom saw double-digit percentage growth in properly priced, long-term retail deposits. Let’s dig into the results for the institution.

HOW MUCH PRICE PRESSURE CAN FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS EXPECT?

U.S. Treasury rates dwarf CD offerings

High-wealth depositors consider U.S. Treasury yields alongside certificates of deposit when assessing where to safely invest their money. Yet, when you look at bank and credit union offerings for time deposits in the second quarter of 2022, the median time deposit portfolio yield was only 0.66%, and the trimmed average was 0.69%. Only the top 5% of institutions had portfolio rates above 1.33%.

Meanwhile, U.S. Treasury yields are now at 2.65% for 6 months, and 3.26% for a year.

The math is there today for depositors to pay penalties and leave with their deposits. Paying a modest fee to go from less than 1% to more than 3% is a slam dunk.

Institutions need to equip staff with a playbook for this scenario as soon as possible. Otherwise, losses could be worse than just the sum of departed deposits. No leader wants to look back and see that they sat passively by missing both an opportunity to control the cost of funds and to establish the organization as depositors’ preferred financial institution.

Better to create relationships today than go to deposit markets, hat in hand, in 12-24 months to buy back those very deposits.

Value from relationships, not transactions

In the mortgage world, refinances are transactions. The borrower wants a rate, and the lender wants an origination. Depositors and financial institutions can also treat what could be a relationship as a transaction. Those institutions that show real effort to help people’s finances, though, can win hearts and minds among consumers. And, if they know their data and portfolio, they can do it while also positively impacting their margins.  

Consider the financial gain that can be achieved by a financial institution that refinances $50 million of 3-year deposits today with a 150-basis point spread below U.S. Treasuries at 1.50% APY. Locking in this spread for that term and amount creates $2.25 million of riskless profits. Every dollar refinanced at this spread creates only more value for the financial institution.

The deposit refinance boom also has deep meaning for institutions’ financial relationships. For more than 15 years, people with the most wealth, such as retirees, have been forced to either seek returns from stocks—a very high-risk investment for retirement—or accept the historic-low returns of safer investments like CDs. Now, another generational cohort is reaching retirement age. Both those in the Greatest Generation and Baby Boomers await safe returns they can live on. These are also the most likely consumers to have capital in quantities most attractive for banks and credit unions.

Now, institutions must show that they understand and want to help with education and options. For many years, CDs and high-yield savings have been seen as “dinosaur” products. But few would make the same analogy about the enormous cohort of depositors who soon will desire valuable deposit offerings. What’s more, great grandma, and grandpa and grandma, see CDs as a staple of the banking offering.

In addition to leading The CorePoint, Neil Stanley serves on the board of TS Banking Group, which operates bank charters in Iowa, North Dakota, Illinois, and Wisconsin. He also leads the idea exchange for banking executives in the Sheshunoff CEO Affiliation program.

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CredEvolv connects low-credit/high-debt consumers, mortgage lenders, and HUD-certified nonprofit credit counselors in a unified ecosystem. 1 in 3 Americans lack the credit score to qualify for a mortgage. CredEvolv works to change that by providing a structured path to help credit-challenged borrowers improve their scores—and debt load—and become loan-ready in as little as three months. For mortgage lenders specifically, CredEvolv closes a common gap in the lending process and turns declined applicants into future qualified borrowers rather than lost opportunities.

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For mortgage lenders, credit challenges represent one of the most persistent and overlooked barriers to growth.

Every year, roughly 1.4 million mortgage applications are declined because of credit or debt-related issues, representing more than $300 billion in unrealized lending opportunities. But many of these borrowers are closer to qualifying for a loan than lenders realize. With the right guidance, many can improve their credit profile, reduce debt pressure, and return to the market application ready.  

That reality creates a major challenge for lenders.

Too often, once a borrower falls outside current underwriting requirements, the relationship hits a dead end. The loan officer may know the borrower could qualify in the future, but there is rarely a structured, scalable way to stay engaged, provide the right education, and track progress without creating workflow friction. As a result, these borrowers slip out of sight and often into the hands of competitors or third-party credit repair services.

This is exactly the kind of untapped opportunity that Total Expert and CredEvolv help lenders act on.

Turning yesterday’s denial into tomorrow’s approval

CredEvolv is a fintech platform that connects credit- or debt-challenged consumers with HUD-certified nonprofit credit counselors to help them improve their credit scores and become loan-ready, while keeping them engaged with lenders. The value here isn't just the counseling itself. It’s the ability to keep those borrowers connected to the lender’s relationship and communication strategy instead of pushing them out of the pipeline entirely.  

Historically, lenders have had limited options for supporting borrowers who are close to qualifying but need time and guidance. Many solutions in the market operate outside the lender’s main workflow, creating friction for teams and confusion for consumers. That can break continuity with the loan officer, limit visibility into borrower progress, and make follow-up inconsistent. CredEvolv was built to solve that problem by helping transform a declined or delayed loan into a managed pipeline opportunity.  

Because CredEvolv integrates directly into Total Expert, those opportunities become easier to operationalize at scale.

Bringing credit improvement into the main workflow

The real power of the CredEvolv and Total Expert partnership is that it helps lenders move credit-improvement communications and nurturing into the same system where they already manage customer engagement.

Instead of treating credit-challenged borrowers as exceptions that sit outside normal sales and marketing motions, lenders can identify those borrowers, connect them to trusted nonprofit counseling, and continue relevant communication inside their existing workflow. That means fewer handoff gaps, better visibility, and a more consistent borrower experience.  

For lenders, this is important at three critical moments:

  • Before an application begins, when early conversations suggest credit or debt may become an obstacle.
  • After a soft credit pull, when signs of qualification challenges become more visible.
  • After a HMDA-recorded decline, when many borrowers may still be closer to qualifying than they appear.  

In each of these moments, the opportunity is the same: keep the borrower engaged, educated, and moving forward with a clear plan.

That aligns directly with Total Expert’s broader approach to customer engagement—using intelligence and workflow orchestration to help lenders show up in the moments that matter and prevent opportunities from slipping through the cracks. Total Expert Customer Intelligence includes Credit Improvement Alerts that identify when a borrower who initially didn’t qualify now meets your organization’s required credit criteria. From January-June 2025, credit improvement was one of the most monitored signals helping lenders uncover new application and funded-loan opportunities through Total Expert.

Why early engagement matters

When lenders identify warning signs early, the conversation with the borrower changes.

Instead of ending with “you’re not approved,” it can become: “here’s what needs to happen to get you there.”  

Some of the most common indicators include high credit utilization, recent late payments, thin or unstable credit history, rising debt-to-income pressure, and scores near underwriting cutoffs. These are not always signs that a borrower is out of reach. More often, they are signals that the borrower needs education, accountability, and a structured path forward.  

That is where CredEvolv plays a critical role. Through its network of nonprofit counseling partners, borrowers receive realistic guidance tailored to their situation.  

  • Consumers who work with CredEvolv’s nonprofit counseling agencies reach their goals in an average of three to five months, often improving their credit scores by 40 to 100+ points while reducing utilization and resolving delinquent accounts that were preventing approval.  
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A better experience for borrowers and a better process for lenders

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For lenders, the advantage is operational. Rather than relying on manual follow-up, disconnected vendors, or inconsistent loan officer outreach, they can keep Credit Improvement Journeys closer to the core relationship strategy. That helps teams maintain visibility, reduce lost opportunities, and make sure borrowers working toward qualification don’t get left behind.  

This is especially valuable in an environment where lenders are under pressure to do more with the opportunities already in their database. Recovering even a fraction of borrowers who would otherwise be lost can create meaningful pipeline lift without relying solely on new lead acquisition.

From dead end to pipeline strategy

Credit-challenged borrowers should never be written off. For many lenders, they represent one of the most overlooked business growth opportunities.

Together, CredEvolv and Total Expert help lenders turn what used to be a dead end into a more structured recovery strategy: identify credit-challenged borrowers earlier, connect them with trusted counseling resources, keep communication active inside the lender’s main workflow, and re-engage them when they’re ready to move forward.  

That’s the difference between simply declining a borrower and building a process to win them back. And in a market where every opportunity matters, that difference can be significant. A small change in your organization’s mindset and workflow could be the life-changing support that a borrower needs, and that they won’t forget.

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Others, he said, are still “treading lightly and cautiously” as they try to determine “what’s the right formula for their organization to really adopt it.

What is clear to Welu is that the stakes are rising fast. “There’s an extreme bifurcation happening in really every business right now,” he said. “There’s not going to be this middle anymore. There’s going to be very clear winners, the people that are getting ahead of it.

In his view, lenders that make AI a strategic priority are already “getting a lot of ROI and impact,” while others are “certainly falling behind.

Welu said Total Expert’s approach is different because it starts with intelligence and context, not just automation. “AI agents are very, very powerful,” he said, because “it actually can do the task, it can call the customer, it can send the note, complete something that a human would have had to complete.

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Those conversations, he added, show that AI can often improve the front end of the experience. “They actually, as it turns out, maybe not shocking, listen better than our average sales people,” he said. “They have perfect memory, so they always remember the last conversation.

When rate opportunities open, it creates “infinite ability” to reach borrowers quickly, while still handing off qualified consumers to human advisors at the right time.

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For most borrowers, getting a homeowners’ insurance policy has been treated as the final step in the mortgage process. A necessary requirement to confirm before closing rather than a critical component that’s integrated into the broader borrower experience. But that approach is becoming increasingly outdated.

Rising premiums, climate-related risks, and shifting carrier appetites are making insurance a much more complex part of the homebuying journey. In some markets, borrowers are facing fewer coverage options and significantly higher costs, which can disrupt closing timelines or affect loan affordability. What was once a simple compliance task is now a critical factor in the lending process.

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Total Expert customers can now integrate insurance solutions from Covered directly into their borrower journeys to transform a historically fragmented process into a seamless, digital experience.

Bringing insurance into the borrower journey

Traditionally, borrowers begin shopping for homeowners’ insurance late in the mortgage process, often while juggling multiple closing requirements. This timing can lead to delays, document chases, and added stress for both borrowers and loan teams.

Planning and accounting for insurance needs from the outset changes that dynamic.

With Total Expert, originators can use key borrower milestones such as loan purpose, property type, or stage in the application process to create personalized communications that include a simple “click-to-quote” experience, allowing the borrower to compare policy options from dozens of carriers in seconds.

Because the experience is integrated into the lender’s existing workflows, originators remain central to the relationship while borrowers gain a faster, easier way to secure coverage.

Once a borrower selects a policy, their contact record in Total Expert is automatically updated with key details like the carrier name, premium, and policy effective date. This eliminates manual follow-up and ensures lenders have clear visibility into the status of a critical closing requirement.  

The result is a smoother experience for borrowers and fewer administrative headaches for lenders.

Expanding coverage options in a changing market

Insurance availability is an increasing concern in many parts of the country. Some lenders have responded by building captive insurance agencies or internal brokerage capabilities to capture more of the opportunity.

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As a licensed digital insurance agency operating in all 50 states, Covered connects borrowers to more than 65 national and regional carriers. This expanded network improves the likelihood that borrowers can find bindable coverage, even in challenging or high-risk markets.

For lenders, this additional access helps reduce the risk of last-minute surprises that could jeopardize closing timelines.

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Some lenders attempt to address insurance needs through basic referral links. While these links provide borrowers with a place to start, they often introduce new challenges.

A referral link typically sends borrowers outside the lender’s ecosystem, leaving originator teams with little visibility into the process. Documentation must still be collected and recorded manually, and lenders remain responsible for ensuring policies meet closing requirements.

A licensed, integrated insurance partner offers a much more seamless approach.

Covered manages the documentation-heavy aspects of the process, delivering evidence of insurance, declaration pages, and invoices directly back to the lender. Licensed U.S.-based agents also provide expert support to help borrowers navigate complex underwriting conditions and ensure policies are successfully bound before closing.

This combination of technology and specialized expertise helps lenders maintain visibility while simplifying the borrower experience.

A long-term opportunity beyond closing

Perhaps the biggest opportunity lies beyond the initial mortgage transaction.

Unlike many financial products, homeowners’ insurance renews annually. That renewal cycle creates an ongoing opportunity for lenders to stay connected with borrowers and provide meaningful value over time.

By monitoring renewal activity, lenders can proactively identify borrowers experiencing premium spikes and help them shop for better coverage options before costs escalate. This can help prevent “escrow shock,” reduce the likelihood of lender-placed insurance events, and strengthen borrower trust.

Insurance insights can also support refinance recapture strategies. Rising premiums increase borrowers’ monthly payments and can push debt-to-income ratios higher. Helping borrowers find insurance savings may restore refinance eligibility and preserve opportunities that might otherwise be lost.

Even simple campaigns such as automated loan anniversary reminders to review insurance policies can help lenders remain relevant long after closing.

Turning insurance into a strategic advantage

Borrowers who shop through Covered often uncover meaningful savings opportunities— averaging roughly $1,240 annually—by comparing policies across multiple carriers.

But the true value lies in the experience lenders can deliver.

By embedding insurance directly into the borrower journey through Total Expert, lenders can streamline closing workflows, reduce operational friction, and create new opportunities to engage borrowers throughout the life of the loan.

What was once treated as a routine closing requirement is quickly becoming a strategic advantage for lenders focused on delivering modern, customer-first homeownership experiences.

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